One of my friends in the Manx Fire Brigade was interviewed with some of his colleagues for a project that has them training fire brigades in Eastern Europe. There is a chance I might join them on their trip to Romania next May.
I think this link should work for you if you are not on a mac: http://www.manxradio.com/audiovault/HeadsTUES-2.wma You can find it under Tuesday, Talking Heads 2 here: http://www.manxradio.com/listenagain.aspx
Feel free to pass this on.
Tom (the US Firefighter)